Comments on: Pluto DEMOTED!!! http://www.save-pluto.net/2006/08/24/pluto-demoted/ Pluto must remain a PLANET!!! Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:48:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: Spelling Freak http://www.save-pluto.net/2006/08/24/pluto-demoted/#comment-862 Tue, 06 Feb 2007 16:40:44 +0000 http://www.save-pluto.net/2006/08/24/pluto-demoted/#comment-862 Harm Niekus wrote: "1 objects big enough for nuclear fusion. 2 objects big enough to be round, but to small for nuclear fusion. 3 objects even smaller." First of all, I would like to say that I found that rather amusing, so thank you for that. Second of all, you missed an "o" on "to" - It should be "but too small for nuclear fusion", not, "but to small for nuclear fusion". Now that we've had that little grammar lesson, I would like to say that I am entirely in favour of pluto being demoted, and long live Eris and Ceres. Thank you. Harm Niekus wrote:

“1 objects big enough for nuclear fusion.
2 objects big enough to be round, but to small for nuclear fusion.
3 objects even smaller.”

First of all, I would like to say that I found that rather amusing, so thank you for that.

Second of all, you missed an “o” on “to” -
It should be “but too small for nuclear fusion”, not, “but to small for nuclear fusion”.

Now that we’ve had that little grammar lesson, I would like to say that I am entirely in favour of pluto being demoted, and long live Eris and Ceres.

Thank you.

]]> by: Harm Niekus http://www.save-pluto.net/2006/08/24/pluto-demoted/#comment-303 Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:20:37 +0000 http://www.save-pluto.net/2006/08/24/pluto-demoted/#comment-303 I personally would suggest defining 3 types of objects in space: 1 objects big enough for nuclear fusion. 2 objects big enough to be round, but to small for nuclear fusion. 3 objects even smaller. The first category of objects would always be stars, the second category would be planets if they orbit a star, this would make earth a pretty normal planet, it would make both Pluto and Ceres (which in my opinion is the fifth terestial planet) planets, but would also make earth and moon a double planet, not to mention Jupiter, and in a few centuries this would lead to lots and lots and more lots of planets in our solar system (most notably the oort cloud). A smaller object orbiting a planet would be a moon, but orbiting a star they are just small solar system bodies, and flying loose through space it's just debris. The 'schoolbook' argument is nonsense, there are new prints of those books all the time, just edit it next time you bring out a book. Yes, people will remember Pluto, for now, so what? Does that make it a planet? I don't like the definition of 'clearing the neighbourhood' because it's to vague, I'dd rather go with something else, but I don't need to change the definition just because an American discored the chunck of ice we now today as Pluto. Face it, Pluto is one of many round objects out there. You either make them all planets, or make them all something else. If Pluto is a planet, it may be remembered as 'the first of that type to be discovered', but it will be no more special then when it isn't a planet. I personally would suggest defining 3 types of objects in space:
1 objects big enough for nuclear fusion.
2 objects big enough to be round, but to small for nuclear fusion.
3 objects even smaller.
The first category of objects would always be stars, the second category would be planets if they orbit a star, this would make earth a pretty normal planet, it would make both Pluto and Ceres (which in my opinion is the fifth terestial planet) planets, but would also make earth and moon a double planet, not to mention Jupiter, and in a few centuries this would lead to lots and lots and more lots of planets in our solar system (most notably the oort cloud). A smaller object orbiting a planet would be a moon, but orbiting a star they are just small solar system bodies, and flying loose through space it’s just debris.
The ’schoolbook’ argument is nonsense, there are new prints of those books all the time, just edit it next time you bring out a book. Yes, people will remember Pluto, for now, so what? Does that make it a planet? I don’t like the definition of ‘clearing the neighbourhood’ because it’s to vague, I’dd rather go with something else, but I don’t need to change the definition just because an American discored the chunck of ice we now today as Pluto. Face it, Pluto is one of many round objects out there. You either make them all planets, or make them all something else. If Pluto is a planet, it may be remembered as ‘the first of that type to be discovered’, but it will be no more special then when it isn’t a planet.

]]> by: Hugo http://www.save-pluto.net/2006/08/24/pluto-demoted/#comment-121 Fri, 10 Nov 2006 05:28:52 +0000 http://www.save-pluto.net/2006/08/24/pluto-demoted/#comment-121 Pluto has been, in fact, "demoded". No big deal. I prefer that to a 12-planets solar system; full-fledged planets have formed on the same "solar plane" and have non-excentric orbits. Anyway, whatever happens, Pluto is an important and interesting part of our solar system. It will still be visited by the New Horizons probe in a few years. And by the way, introducing the concept of "Minor Planet" has sparket interest for Ceres and other objects of comparable size. Pluto has been, in fact, “demoded”. No big deal. I prefer that to a 12-planets solar system; full-fledged planets have formed on the same “solar plane” and have non-excentric orbits. Anyway, whatever happens, Pluto is an important and interesting part of our solar system. It will still be visited by the New Horizons probe in a few years. And by the way, introducing the concept of “Minor Planet” has sparket interest for Ceres and other objects of comparable size.

]]> by: Mint http://www.save-pluto.net/2006/08/24/pluto-demoted/#comment-94 Thu, 05 Oct 2006 17:05:18 +0000 http://www.save-pluto.net/2006/08/24/pluto-demoted/#comment-94 lol where I live they still use textbooks that I've used in elementary school so it's gonna take a toll on the expenses of the school having to change the textbooks. But overall, the definition of a planet is man made anyways not a pre-define logic like the earth being round when it was originally thought of as flat. lol where I live they still use textbooks that I’ve used in elementary school so it’s gonna take a toll on the expenses of the school having to change the textbooks. But overall, the definition of a planet is man made anyways not a pre-define logic like the earth being round when it was originally thought of as flat.

]]> by: Brandon http://www.save-pluto.net/2006/08/24/pluto-demoted/#comment-83 Wed, 20 Sep 2006 11:49:07 +0000 http://www.save-pluto.net/2006/08/24/pluto-demoted/#comment-83 Are they still sending that probe to Pluto or does this recent decision by the IAU cancel NASA's plans? Are they still sending that probe to Pluto or does this recent decision by the IAU cancel NASA’s plans?

]]> by: J Jizzle http://www.save-pluto.net/2006/08/24/pluto-demoted/#comment-81 Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:18:48 +0000 http://www.save-pluto.net/2006/08/24/pluto-demoted/#comment-81 Pluto deserves more he's like the little kid who sits in the corner and does nothing wrong but yet we still pick on him let Pluto rise above this stereotypical choice and shine. AS A PLANET! Pluto deserves more he’s like the little kid who sits in the corner and does nothing wrong but yet we still pick on him let Pluto rise above this stereotypical choice and shine. AS A PLANET!

]]> by: Demote Pluto! http://www.save-pluto.net/2006/08/24/pluto-demoted/#comment-80 Thu, 14 Sep 2006 12:37:14 +0000 http://www.save-pluto.net/2006/08/24/pluto-demoted/#comment-80 Marla Geha: "Protesters at New Mexico State University where Pluto's discoverer, the late Clyde Tombaugh was a professor emeritus, argued that because only about ten percent of astronomers voted for the change, the electoral result is unrepresentative. The difficulty with this argument is that astronomy is a diverse field with many different areas of specialization. The majority of astronomers don't work on planets. It would be like questioning the results of a Republican primary because the Democrats failed to vote....So, why change Pluto's status now? While I doubt Pluto cares very much about its "demotion," clearly humans do. The answer is science. New discoveries highlighted a flaw in our nomenclature that needed to be corrected. And while we do not learn anything new by calling Pluto a 'dwarf planet', the discussions around its renaming may lead to new ideas about how planets form. Pluto's downfall isn't the work of mean-spirited Grinches, it is a necessary part of the same process that got Pluto discovered in the first place." - http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060925/pluto Marla Geha: “Protesters at New Mexico State University where Pluto’s discoverer, the late Clyde Tombaugh was a professor emeritus, argued that because only about ten percent of astronomers voted for the change, the electoral result is unrepresentative. The difficulty with this argument is that astronomy is a diverse field with many different areas of specialization. The majority of astronomers don’t work on planets. It would be like questioning the results of a Republican primary because the Democrats failed to vote….So, why change Pluto’s status now? While I doubt Pluto cares very much about its “demotion,” clearly humans do. The answer is science. New discoveries highlighted a flaw in our nomenclature that needed to be corrected. And while we do not learn anything new by calling Pluto a ‘dwarf planet’, the discussions around its renaming may lead to new ideas about how planets form. Pluto’s downfall isn’t the work of mean-spirited Grinches, it is a necessary part of the same process that got Pluto discovered in the first place.”
- http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060925/pluto

]]> by: admin http://www.save-pluto.net/2006/08/24/pluto-demoted/#comment-76 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 23:12:01 +0000 http://www.save-pluto.net/2006/08/24/pluto-demoted/#comment-76 HEY JIMMY!!! COOL!!! HEY JIMMY!!! COOL!!!

]]> by: jim http://www.save-pluto.net/2006/08/24/pluto-demoted/#comment-75 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 21:32:25 +0000 http://www.save-pluto.net/2006/08/24/pluto-demoted/#comment-75 Hear my demoted pluto song! http://www.purevolume.com/jimmyandthekeyz Jimmy :-) Hear my demoted pluto song!

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]]> by: Demote Pluto http://www.save-pluto.net/2006/08/24/pluto-demoted/#comment-74 Thu, 07 Sep 2006 15:35:41 +0000 http://www.save-pluto.net/2006/08/24/pluto-demoted/#comment-74 The Kuiper Belt Object Pluto is a dwarf planet with little gravitational dominance over its orbital neighbors. IAU made the right decision. <strong>"After all, it’s not a great idea to let cultural attachments dictate scientific categories." http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/whatsaplanet/nytimes.html</strong> The Kuiper Belt Object Pluto is a dwarf planet with little gravitational dominance over its orbital neighbors. IAU made the right decision.

“After all, it’s not a great idea to let cultural attachments dictate scientific categories.”
http://www.gps.caltech.edu/~mbrown/whatsaplanet/nytimes.html

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